Curse

Turtle222 · Jan 07, 2008, 03:42 PM // 15:42

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Originally Posted by Coloneh

thats where i stopped reading. go uninstall.

i second that D:

Gambit Shinobi · Jan 07, 2008, 04:10 PM // 16:10

Say what you want you n00bs. I never use rez as an Assassin in PvE. It's the biggest waste of a slot. I can't believe how many retards post on this forum.

Bobby2 · Jan 07, 2008, 04:24 PM // 16:24

Seemingly you're one of 'em. CritDefenses sucks? When I enter a serious area the blocking noises soon make my ears bleed. Rather that than having to announce "I'm Dead!"

Stormlord Alex · Jan 07, 2008, 04:47 PM // 16:47

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Originally Posted by Gambit Shinobi

Say what you want you n00bs. I never use rez as an Assassin in PvE. It's the biggest waste of a slot. I can't believe how many retards post on this forum.

Like yourself?

Yanman.be · Jan 07, 2008, 06:27 PM // 18:27

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Originally Posted by Gambit Shinobi

Say what you want you n00bs. I never use rez as an Assassin in PvE. It's the biggest waste of a slot. I can't believe how many retards post on this forum.

I say you fail. Therefor, you fail.

moko · Jan 07, 2008, 07:48 PM // 19:48

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Originally Posted by Gambit Shinobi

LOL @ rez for PvE. Crit. Defenses kinda sucks IMO. I only use it for certain situations. Already have Crit. Agility up there so there goes your IAS idea. I don't know what "funny PvE skills" you're speaking of. He also has a Shadow Step skill in there too.

The only skill I can see replacing Crit. Eye is a self heal. But with the points the OP has distributed already, I don't know what he can fit in there.

oops, forgot about crit agility.

but yes, he has a shadowstep, but he could add a "better" one (that allows you to get out of the crap, too). but as i said, i dunno how it works so..

imo the dash shadow walk >>> selfheal.

crit defenses is pretty damn awesome; i dunno why you wouldn't like it. it *might* not be needed for NM, however. (considering that's what the OP is about)

and Rez is a personal preferance, but tell me, why exactly is a rez bad?

PS, less arrogance imo. i know that *most* of these people are pretty good (even at PvE, lulz, with the exception of yan and coloneh ofc <3), and i can't judge about you, but meh.

explanation gogo.

Coloneh · Jan 07, 2008, 08:06 PM // 20:06

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Originally Posted by Mokone

i know that *most* of these people are pretty good (even at PvE, lulz, with the exception of yan and coloneh ofc <3)

you seem to be mixed up

moko · Jan 07, 2008, 08:17 PM // 20:17

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Originally Posted by Coloneh

you seem to be mixed up

no way, nub! :P

Gambit Shinobi · Jan 07, 2008, 10:59 PM // 22:59

Oh look at the mob mentality up in full force here. Gang up on the guy who disagrees with all the egotistical, holier than thou PvPers about a PvE build. GG

@ Mokone, since you seem to be the only reasonable one posting here:

Rez sucks for PvE on an Assassin because we're frontline melees. It's best to use that slot for skills that keep us alive (self heal) or to escape out of a bad situation instead of wasting it on a rez. The better you can stay alive and not drain your healers' energy, the better off your party will be. 98% of the time in PvE, you will NOT be using a rez as an Assassin unless you go ranged build in a hard dungeon or do HM missions.

Those rare times where you do need a rez, your party has already failed to stay alive and do their jobs... meaning your party sucks, got unlucky, and/or did not prepare properly for the task at hand. It saves time to just commit suicide if you're the only one alive and the rest of your party is dead, so you can resurrect at a shrine instead of wasting time rezzing everyone. Also, you can use tons of various consumables to get rid of DP, so it's no big deal giving up that slot and not bring a rez.

In conclusion, most of the posters here are retards who most likely don't play Assassin in PvE much, if at all, and are just flamers who offer nothing to this discussion.

Bobby2 · Jan 07, 2008, 11:08 PM // 23:08

'Just flamers'? You're one to talk.

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Originally Posted by YOU

Say what you want you n00bs.

How you can take yourself seriously is beyond my comprehension. Baibainow.

Coloneh · Jan 08, 2008, 02:47 AM // 02:47

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Originally Posted by Gambit Shinobi

fail, fail, fail.

you fail.
gg nub

horseradish · Jan 08, 2008, 04:00 AM // 04:00

I believe the proper term is "gfg nub"

Since when were Sins frontline chars anyway?

Bobby2 · Jan 08, 2008, 04:29 AM // 04:29

Since they started wearing orange overalls, of course

moko · Jan 08, 2008, 04:37 AM // 04:37

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Originally Posted by Gambit Shinobi

@ Mokone, since you seem to be the only reasonable one posting here:

Rez sucks for PvE on an Assassin because we're frontline melees. It's best to use that slot for skills that keep us alive (self heal) or to escape out of a bad situation instead of wasting it on a rez. The better you can stay alive and not drain your healers' energy, the better off your party will be. 98% of the time in PvE, you will NOT be using a rez as an Assassin unless you go ranged build in a hard dungeon or do HM missions.

Those rare times where you do need a rez, your party has already failed to stay alive and do their jobs... meaning your party sucks, got unlucky, and/or did not prepare properly for the task at hand. It saves time to just commit suicide if you're the only one alive and the rest of your party is dead, so you can resurrect at a shrine instead of wasting time rezzing everyone. Also, you can use tons of various consumables to get rid of DP, so it's no big deal giving up that slot and not bring a rez.

In conclusion, most of the posters here are retards who most likely don't play Assassin in PvE much, if at all, and are just flamers who offer nothing to this discussion.

the OPs build has no selfheal, and no real defense at staying alive. that's why i first suggested shadow walk dash over dark prison crit eye, if he doesn't want that combo (nor crit defenses) he should get the rez.

parties don't always wipe just cause one person dies. at least one rez sig should be on every build (imo, on the melee, except if he is meant to 'tank').

of course, if your party is about to full wipe, don't bother and just die -- i'm not keen on hardrezzing (if possible) everyone in the group just so you (except if maybe some other heroes can be safed too) don't gain DP; especially after wintersday with lots of CCs.

generally, the point of the rez sig is to rez a monk really fast (deaths happen, no group is perfect) so you don't wipe. if the monk died, aggro most likely broke and the midline and backline is under attack, with the melee being completely ignored usually. therefore, a rez isn't so bad, IMO.

at least i *never* got to the point where i wish i hadn't took a rez with me cause it was a waste of slot.

Gambit Shinobi · Jan 08, 2008, 05:42 AM // 05:42

So you'd rather waste that slot for a rez sig than to put in another skill to either keep yourself alive or to kill faster? Doesn't make much sense. Seriously, you're going to rez your Monk in the middle of battle, meleeing mobs and stuff? If your H/H or human mages can't rez your Monk if he/she dies, relying on the Assassin to rez while busy killing stuff, then I feel bad for you and your party.

xDusT II · Jan 08, 2008, 06:02 AM // 06:02

The funny thing is, if you'd actually explained your point, I think alot of people would have understood and accepted it. Jumping in yelling "LOL RES NOOBS" kinda ruined it though.

You should bring enough resses that your party needs. Everyone doesn't need a res, especially if you have hard resses on someone. Unless you plan on dying every 2 minutes I'd much rather spends skill slots on something that does something and leave resses to whoever can support them.

Gambit Shinobi · Jan 08, 2008, 06:09 AM // 06:09

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Originally Posted by xDusT II

The funny thing is, if you'd actually explained your point, I think alot of people would have understood and accepted it. Jumping in yelling "LOL RES NOOBS" kinda ruined it though.

You should bring enough resses that your party needs. Everyone doesn't need a res, especially if you have hard resses on someone. Unless you plan on dying every 2 minutes I'd much rather spends skill slots on something that does something and leave resses to whoever can support them.

If you (or anyone that isn't a troll) actually read this thread, you'd realize that I didn't run into this thread and start calling everyone "n00bs." In fact, I called the 2 trolls Coloneh and Turtlewhatever "n00bs" because they are, when they flamed me for no apparent reason... as well as the subsequent idiots that followed their retarded, trolling ways.

Anyway, I believe only mages (and Rangers) should bring res. They're in the backlines and should have enough time to res the team should people start dying. If your team cannot protect the mages (or protect themselves) and causes a wipe, then that's the party's fault. Frontline melees like Sins, Dervishes, and I guess Warriors should never bring rez unless it's for hard dungeons and HM missions like I said above. Even then, IMO, res should only be brought if you can spare the slot.

horseradish · Jan 08, 2008, 06:35 AM // 06:35

Whether or not to bring a rez in PvE is just a preference of playstyle. You've, obviously, expressed your opinion, as did the "flamers" and "trolls".

You should realize, that insulting the majority's opinion will get you flamed. You brought the attacks upon yourself with your impudent comment, "LOL @ rez for PvE".

I am curious to how you play an assassin. Categorizing it a frontline character is rather odd.

Gambit Shinobi · Jan 08, 2008, 07:21 AM // 07:21

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Originally Posted by horseradish

Whether or not to bring a rez in PvE is just a preference of playstyle. You've, obviously, expressed your opinion, as did the "flamers" and "trolls".

You should realize, that insulting the majority's opinion will get you flamed. You brought the attacks upon yourself with your impudent comment, "LOL @ rez for PvE".

I am curious to how you play an assassin. Categorizing it a frontline character is rather odd.

The flamers and trolls did not express anything nor did they add anything to this thread or conversation. I did not insult the "majority" by saying "LOL @ rez for PvE." Then again, I don't feel as if I need to explain myself to some of the morons in here either...

I play Assassin the way it's supposed to be played: Kill shit fast and don't die. In most cases, I am frontline melee. I don't understand how else you're supposed to play Assassin well in PvE unless you like defending mages, use ranged builds (crit. Barrager), or be a wuss and hide in the backlines constantly acting like it's PvP or something (in which case, you're a waste of a player slot... in PvE). And no, I do not die much, even in hard dungeons like Slaver's Exile and such.

Yanman.be · Jan 08, 2008, 08:23 AM // 08:23

I take Death Pact Signet in PvE.